[Transcript] – The Ultimate Human Recharging Station – How To Reboot The Human Battery, Get To Sleep Faster, Increase Energy, & Restore Your Cells’ Proper Electrical Voltage With A BioCharger.

From podcast: https://bengreenfieldfitness.com/podcast/biohacking-podcasts/biocharger/
[00:00:00] Introduction
[00:01:46] VIP Text Club and Podcast Sponsors
[00:05:25] Topic and Guests Introduction
[00:11:00] What Is the BioCharger?
[00:17:55] The Technologies Used in The BioCharger
[00:32:28] Podcast Sponsors
[00:35:56] cont. The Technologies Used in The BioCharger
[00:39:05] The Best Way to Absorb the Light from The Device
[00:44:15] The Effect of The BioCharger On Various Parts of The Body
[00:53:54] Whether Other Biohacks Can Be “Stacked” With the BioCharger
[00:57:20] How the Device Affects Pets, Children and Cell Phones
[01:02:37] The Most Popular Recipes of BioCharger Customers
[01:08:10] Overuse of The BioCharger?
[01:10:22] Having Your Own BioCharger
[01:12:46] Upcoming Updates of BioCharger
[01:14:36] Closing the Podcast
[01:15:52] End of Podcast
Ben:  On this episode of the Ben Greenfield Fitness Podcast.
Jim Law:  In modern life, we just don’t spend enough time in nature, which is where our bodies can absorb these vital energies.
Jim Girard:  And, that’s what we try to do. We’re not using cloud structures and things like that to generate unique sets of harmonics and frequencies. We can vary harmonics and frequencies in each and every one of our lightning discharges that we’re generating. They have their series of biohacking ideas that they’d like to do, and they’ll stack that. But, that one, I was almost a little nervous with just because of the–
Ben:  Health, performance, nutrition, longevity, ancestral living, biohacking, and much more. My name is Ben Greenfield. Welcome to the show.
So, if you guys have been following me on social media, you may have seen me using this crazy rocketshippy device in my recovery room that’s blasting me with lights and electricity and pulsed electromagnetic fields. It’s like a cookbook for recovery. My wife uses it for headaches to make her headaches disappear within just a couple of minutes. It’s crazy. It’s called the BioCharger. So, I wanted to dig into the science of this thing, and I got the guy who invented it, the guys who invented it, actually, on today’s show. So, this one’s going to be kind of a biohacking geek out deep dive. And, this thing’s a total game-changer. If you listen in and you want one of them, I’ll put all the links and everything in the shownotes. But, it’s crazy, this thing. And, my friends have been coming over and using it. And, I have people just begging to come to my house and stand in front of my BioCharger. So, you got to check that out.
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Alright. So, if you’ve been following me on social media much, you may have occasionally seen me standing or sitting or bouncing up and down on a trampoline or doing any other weird fringe things that biohackers like myself do in front of this rocketship-shaped device in my basement. It’s called the BioCharger, and it makes all these crazy lights and sounds and whistles and hums. And, myself, my kids, even my wife, and that’s impressive because it’s very difficult to get my wife to use anything, have been using this thing every day for about the past month and a half. And, I have yet to wrap my head around all the nooks and crannies of exactly how it works, but the thing freaking does something. Like, if my wife gets a headache, she goes and stands in front of it, and pushes the little headache recipe that it has on it. I think it’s called Clearhead. And her headache just goes away.
I put it in the morning. I play that Clearhead one in the morning. I use another one called Nitro before my workouts, and it’s absolutely mind-blowing, as far as what it’s doing. But, again, there are so many things going on with this device that I wanted to get the folks who actually designed it on the show to talk about it, because I find it intriguing. It combines infrared light therapy and pulsed electromagnetic field therapy and sound therapy. And, I think it has some kind of a noble gas or an ozone type of therapy. It uses these old-school Rife therapies, if you’ve heard of that, which are a form of pulsing frequency. So, it’s pretty crazy.
And, like I said, I think that the people who make this thing and who came up with this crazy idea would do a much better job explaining it than I can. And, honestly, I’m a little skeptical about some of it and I have some questions to ask about the science behind it. And also, I want to know a little bit more about how it can best be used. And, again, if I’m using something every day and it’s definitely helping with a wide variety of functions, I want to make sure my audience knows about it, too.
So, I decided to invite the masterminds behind this thing, again, called the BioCharger, on my show. So, I’ve got Jim law and Jim Girard with me today. Now, these guys are involved with this company called Advanced Biotechnologies. And, Jim Law is the managing member of Advanced Biotechnologies. He co-founded it back in 2013. And, prior to that, he held executive positions, primarily, in the technology world at companies like Apple and NeXT. Then, Jim Girard, he has a huge background, more than 30 years in energy research, using a lot of these frequencies. So, if you’ve heard of, for example, Nikola Tesla, and who hasn’t? At least, you’ve heard of the car. Jim has done a ton of experimentation with Tesla coils and with what are called wave oscillation technologies. And, I know that’s a lot of what is kind of woven into this BioCharger as well. So, I’ve got both of these guys on the show today.
And, just so we can differentiate between who’s who, as is always the annoying case when we’re having an online Skype-based conversation, Jim Law, go ahead and say, “hello,” and introduce yourself, man.
Jim Law:  Thanks, Ben. Pleasure to be here and able to address your audience today.
Ben:  Awesome. So, that’s Jim Law. Jim Girard, say, “hello,” man.
Jim Girard:  Hi. It’s awesome to have us on here. Appreciate the opportunity.
Ben:  Did you, guys, do a BioCharger session this morning?
Jim Girard:  Yes, I did.
Jim Law:  Uh-huh.
Jim Girard:  I’m down for two, so far, today.
Ben:  I know. I’ve actually been hitting it during the quarantine. I have to be careful about this because I know that you, guys, have plugged in some specific viral frequencies into that, and I have to be very careful with my language. Nowadays, it seems I can’t really talk about cures and remedies and all that jazz, but I’ve actually been running the viral protocols that you, guys, uploaded to that when this whole quarantine first started. I’ve been running those every single afternoon. I’ve been doing something like Clearhead or one of the other kind of wakefulness or the Chakra Balancing recipes in the morning. And then, typically, at night, I slip into my little, I call it the Zen Den, at night, and I typically do something a little bit more relaxing or meditative at night, like you guys have your pineal gland one, and then, another really relaxing one, a Solfeggio one for alpha waves. And, I’ll go in there and do my devotional reading or scriptural reading at night, or do a little bit of meditation with it. So, I’m literally hitting it three times a day. And, this morning, actually, I did the Solfeggio frequency one, the one that’s more musical-based, which I just wanted to mess around. That was one I hadn’t run much and felt really good after that. So, all sorts of uses for this thing. I have found that when I use the five-hour energy recipe or I use one of the more pick-me-up recipes, if I do it too close to bedtime, I’m screwed. That thing just jacks you up for a few hours.
But, aside from that, I’ve been using this thing quite frequently. So, I’m glad to hear that we’re all BioCharged for today’s interview.
Jim Law:  You’ve got it.
Ben:  Alright. Cool. Well, let’s jump in. So, this BioCharger, it’s got a lot going on. And, I don’t know who’s best equipped to answer this question, but I guess my first question, what is this device? How do you explain it to people?
Jim Law:  Jim Girard can go deep pretty much any of these subjects. And, if it’s okay with you, I’ll start out kind of give a 60,000-foot level, and then, we can drill down as you’d like. First off, the BioCharger is not a medical device. We make no claims. It doesn’t cure anything, and we don’t advertise it as such. It’s a subtle energy revitalization platform. And, we’ll explain more about subtle energies in a couple of minutes. But, the BioCharger is affectionately referred to as kind of the ultimate human recharging station, because it simulates and amplifies four distinct energy types that exist in nature and, frankly, are vital to our health and wellness. These energies are essential for proper cellular function, and that’s what it’s all about. I know, Ben, that you’ve been a follower of Dr. Jerry Tennant and read “Healing is Voltage.”
Ben:  Oh, yeah. “Healing is Voltage” is a great book, by the way. I just got to jump in and say that. But, explain what that has to do with the BioCharger.
Jim Law:  Sure. So, what Tennant first did was proved that healthy cells have three common characteristics. One is uptake in nutrients. Two is dealing with toxicity. And, the third is voltage. And, he goes on to explain that all chronic disease has a common characteristic of inadequate cellular voltage, and, in fact, chronic disease can only occur when you lose the ability to make new cells that work properly. So, at the cellular level, I mean, healthy cells, healthy body, you have to have energy and you have to have the right amount of energy for the cells to function properly. And, our bodies are making cells, new cells, at a rate of two to three million per second. Our bodies are also self-healing, self-regulating, and self-regenerating, but they’re all dependent on making healthy new cells.
So, we look back and we say, “Okay, 45% of Americans have, at least, one form of chronic disease. Why the energy shortage? Why is there a shortage in cellular energy?” And, we think it boils down to a couple of primary factors. One is that, in modern life, we just don’t spend enough time in nature, which is where our bodies can absorb these vital energies. Think about how much energy you had when you went to the beach or spent a day in nature.
Ben:  Or, even just walk outside barefoot. I don’t know if Jerry talks about that much in his book, but just to clarify with folks, when you’re talking about Jerry’s research and that book, “Healing is Voltage,” it’s, typically, a negative millivolt potential that is required for proper cellular function. And, that’s related to the entire process, for example, for turning fatty acids into glucose, the Krebs cycle that is converting ATP to ADP that is necessary on a proper electrical status to keep the cell functioning. And, if the voltage drops, then, you get into an electron donor status that causes a change in polarity. And, when the voltage drops really low, that’s where Jerry talks about disease setting in and some of the cell membrane function actually being affected pretty significantly, which is actually something I’ve recently been talking about. And, Robert Becker gets this concept in his book, “The Body Electric,” as well, this whole idea that these electrical feedback loops are very important. But, these voltage-gated calcium channels where you get this steep influx of calcium causes this huge positive charge inside the cell. And, that can ultimately lead to a lot of cellular dysfunction.
And, when you go outside barefoot, for example, you’re getting exposed to negative ions that can help to reverse some of that charge deficit. In contrast, when you get exposed to, let’s say, a real hefty, we know, for example now, that 4G and 5G signals activate that voltage-gated calcium channel significantly and cause a sharp influx of calcium into the cell. And, this is something we could probably talk about for hours, but, ultimately, this idea that the human body and the cells, in general, are a battery, is something that is pretty profound when you think about whether you can charge that battery or drain that battery accordingly, based on your activities.
Jim Law:  Absolutely. It’s similar to a cellphone. The phones work great until you get down around 5%, and there’s not a lot of life left in them. And, if you don’t charge it, and our bodies are, essentially, the same way, one of the other things, so, lack of access to the natural energy sources, we think, are contributors. But, also, when you’re inside, we live in a shielded box. We’re not only blocking those healthy natural energy sources, we can talk about the specifics on those, but we’re also being bombarded by man-made EMF, which isn’t necessarily good, while we’re on the inside.
So, we put it this way. When we’re outside, you’re inside nature, the BioCharger brings you inside nature again by being able to sit next to it, spend 10 to 15 minutes. You don’t have to touch anything, exert yourself. You can relax. You can do it with a loved one or two to three people simultaneously. And, the common changes that people notice are improved sleep, more energy, better clarity, fast recovery. And, essentially, whether you’re young and healthy or older and, maybe, not so healthy, there’s something in it for everyone, because, in general, by being able to help restore that energy at the cellular level, your body can function and reproduce. And, that’s the only way it knows how to heal.
Ben:  Yeah. And, I’ll link to a really helpful article on PubMed about energy medicine and about how some of these voltage channels work in a cell, this concept of restoring a positive, or not really positive, really, it’s more of a negative millivolt potential inside the cell.
But, specifically, what are the technologies that are used in the BioCharger to allow that to happen? Because, from what I understand, it’s not just pulsed electromagnetic field frequency, or just, say, negative ion generation, or something like that. I’m curious if you, guys, can, and, we have plenty of time to rabbit hole on this, explain the technology behind the different things that are woven into this thing.
Jim Law:  So, at a high level, PEMF, and you’re very familiar with PEMF and the mats, there’s different devices that have apparatus or tables and chairs.
Ben:  Pulsed Electromagnetic Fields, for people who aren’t familiar with that.
Jim Law:  What’s different about the BioCharger in the way that we’re creating and emanating that energy is that we’re able to build a high enough concentration of PEMF, so that, by sitting next to the BioCharger, your body’s being bathed in it. And, we can also control the range of frequencies that the PEMF is being emitted.
Ben:  I’m going to stop you as you go through each of these. But, PEMF, that’s a mild electrical magnetic current. And, usually, in my own experience with PEMF, because I actually sleep on a PEMF mat, and then, have this table called a Pulse Centers table, that I’ll get a massage on or apply certain coils that are attached to that unit to different areas of the body to cause that magnetic field to have the effect that these PEMF frequencies can have on, for example, pain, inflammation, blood flow, even those voltage-gated calcium channels, for example. In my experience, I’ve always had to be touching the device, laying on the device, or having it touching my body.
Now, with the BioCharger and the PEMF that it produces, how is it that those are having an effect on me without me actually touching it. Do they actually travel through the air, these PEMF frequencies?
Jim Girard:  Yeah. So, it follows your normal inverse -square law. So, if you have a strong magnetic field, and like you’re saying, the pulse system, that’s one of the high energy instant pulses, if you get away from that five, six, seven inches away, you’ll probably still pick up some of that field. So, the field will drop off on the distance of the square. But, the way in which the PEMF interacts is definitely interesting. And, each four of those different energy types has a different effect on the body. So, with the PEMF, for instance, it’s not working your traditional electric field. The electric field is a pretty straightforward mechanism that works off of gating the cell membrane, as you’d mentioned earlier, so you make that inner and outer cellular moving the ions in and out and creating that charge that way.
Whereas, with the magnetic field, you’re not really, per se, inducing the voltage in anything. But, what you’re doing is you’re affecting the charged particles as an ion form. So, you have all these ions, different ions, sodium ions that are surrounding the outer and inner cell membrane. And, what it does is it helps to arrange those in such a way that it will make the concentrations of those ions, if it’s sufficient enough, to allow it to gate naturally. Whereas, with the electric field, you can make that gate whether you have any of those ions or not there.
So, the magnetic field works a completely different way than the electric field. And, each one of these have a profound different effect on how these ions are being moved back and forth, whether it’s intercellular or outer cellular or in between. The electric field and the magnetic field both have its own unique functions.
Ben:  Okay. So, there are two different fields that are being produced by the BioCharger, both an electrical field, and then, also, a magnetic current?
Jim Girard:  Yes.
Ben:  Okay. And, the magnetic current, that is the pulsed electromagnetic field current?
Jim Girard:  Exactly, that’s more what you would see with the mats or anything like that. It’s producing, whether it’s a sudden impulse where it’s a short duration of a very strong magnetic field, or some of the mats, where it’s a lower energy, but, it’s just a continuous wave of a magnetic field.
Ben:  So, if those magnetic fields are being broadcast through the air, how far do they actually travel? You mentioned the power of the field will decrease as a function of the distance from the device, but, we’ve established I don’t need to be touching it. How far away from this thing do you actually need to be to get that effect?
Jim Girard:  Well, ideally, right around if you’re within a couple of feet, the magnetic field is the one that breaks off the quickest. So, the magnetic field, we can measure 3,000 milligauss, six to eight inches away from the BioCharger. But, the electric field’s a much farther one. So, if you’ve ever had the fluorescent bulb, for instance, if you light the fluorescent bulb, you’re going to light that a much further distance away. That’s going to be, maybe, six or seven feet away, where it’s producing enough of an electric field to cause the gases inside the fluorescent tube to ignite to fluorescent.
And then, you also have the visible light which goes much further. Visible light’s going to go as far as you’re going to be able to see it. And then, the radio frequencies and harmonics are the same way. That’s also breaking down as the distance squared, but, if you have an oscilloscope or a spectrum analyzer, you can measure that 10, 20, 30 feet away very easily.
Ben:  So, one of the actual therapies that is being produced by the device is the pulsed electromagnetic field therapy. And, that’s something that is going to impact, for example, everything from, I know it impacts, for example, red blood cell flow, inflammation, oxygenation. And, I’ve been using PEMF for a very long time. I have multiple podcasts on it. And so, I think that my listeners might be familiar with that. But then, in addition to PEMF, what are the other, I guess, currents or features that are built into this?
Jim Girard:  So, part of that magnetic field that is out of phase with, we have an electric field, also. So, the electric field is completely different. That’s the one where we’re not gating, we’re not arranging the ions with the magnetic field, but the electric field responds completely different on the cell membrane. So, if you look at the cell membrane, it acts like an insulator dielectric, much like a capacitor. And, when you apply voltage to it, you can stress that excitable membrane. And, when you do that, you start to create tiny holes in it, which become ion channels.
So, with the electric field, you begin to create different types of holes that are in within the cell membrane, and these different ion hole sizes create different channels for proteins, amino acids. There’s all sorts of different things that could be carried in on that electric charge with it. But, it all begins with creating that tiny hole in order to create everything to happen.
So, I look at it, the BioCharger is not so much as a true battery charger like your cellphone. So, if you look at your cellphone and you plug it in, it charges up a battery. How I look at how it actually works is it’s not so much that, but it’s so if you could imagine having power or not having power to your outlet and you’re plugging in your phone to charge, nothing’s going to happen. Even though you have power on the other side of the breaker box and you’re plugged in to do it, nothing’s happening until you flip the switch on. And, what the electric field does is actually flip the switch on to allow the sodium basket pump to kick. It allows all your normal cellular functions to happen with it. So, it’s that gating of the electric field through the cell membrane that’s an important feature. Whereas, the magnetic field, it’s all about arranging the ions on the outside and on the inside, which is a completely different effect. And then, we also have the frequencies and harmonics. So, if you think about it, everything vibrates. First, on an atomic levels, we have atoms vibrating at the speed of light.
Ben:  Now, the frequencies and harmonics, I’m going to interrupt you again, we’re getting into a different territory now than the electrical fields or the pulsed electromagnetic fields, which are two of the features that are built into the BioCharger. I got a comment, by the way. You mentioned its potential effect on the sodium-potassium pump. And, I got to throw this in there because I know some of my listeners may question that, because I’ve commented before that I think that Gilbert Ling pretty much disproved the concept of a sodium-potassium pump. And, I suspect that the electrical field is more acting on the actual cytosolic components in terms of the gel-like form of water within the cell in the intracellular compartment. I think that’s what’s being affected by the electrical field, not necessarily the sodium-potassium pump. And, I think the voltage-gated calcium channel is likely being influenced as well by the magnetic fields and the electrical fields. But, I’m not convinced that the sodium-potassium pump is that important. But, nonetheless, the exposure to these electrical fields is, of course, very important for maintaining that negative charge within the cell, as you’ve alluded to.
And so, we have the pulsed electromagnetic field, we have the electrical field. And then, you were starting to talk about these frequencies and harmonics that it produces as well.
Jim Girard:  Yes. So, frequencies in the harmonics are responding completely differently. So, when you look at frequencies and harmonics, as I stated earlier, everything is vibrating. First, you have atoms that are vibrating at the speed of light. So, in physics class, when you’re studying the light frequency spectrum as it relates to color, they’ll excite different gases to fluoresce. They release photons of light. So, atoms are vibrating at the speed of light.
Now, when you take atoms and you make molecules, they vibrate slightly slower. So, they’ll vibrate at the molecular spectrum. So, the molecular spectrum is more lower frequencies because you have these different energy states between atoms that go in to create a different vibration. And, that goes from about a half a gigahertz up to nearly just a light. And then, you have the nuclei, atomic nuclei, vibrates. And, that’s sort of what the MRI is based off of. So, with the MRI, they put you in the magnetic field and they bounce radio waves. And, how they absorb the emitted frequencies, you can determine specific characteristics of almost anything based off of its electrical signature.
So, what we’re doing is we’ve produced a wide range of these frequencies and harmonics. And, the idea is to resonate them. The idea is that, I always like to use the analogy of two tuning forks of the same pitch. So, if you hit one through a sympathetic vibration, the other one starts to vibrate. Similarly, on a cellular level or an atomic level or a molecular level, if you hit that light radio frequency, you can begin to transfer energy. And, that’s the third source. So, you can design recipes or programs to target for specific outcomes based on that idea.
Ben:  Based on the actual hertz frequencies.
Jim Girard:  Based off of the hertz frequencies that have been laid out from whether it’s Rife’s original works to physicists laid out the whole spectrum to scientists, universities, colleges that are investigating the effects of radio frequencies. And, a lot of this is getting very well-documented and those are sources for a lot of our recipes.
Ben:  Okay. I want to back up and clarify just a few things here. First of all, lightning. When lightning strikes the ground, I know that it charges the earth with these negative ions. And then, the energy from those discharges, if you were to go outside barefoot, for example, are something that’s going to help with that cell voltage. However, I believe, from what I understand, that some of these frequencies, some of these harmonics, are actually, also, something that are related to the striking of lightning, which is one of the primary ways in which the earth kind of maintains its electrical charge.
Now, when I’m using the BioCharger and I’m looking at it, especially, this top little kind of stick coming out the top, it looks like I’m seeing thousands and thousands of lightning bulbs, or lightning bolts, literally, at every second. So, I’m curious, is this very similar to bringing lightning into your home? And, if so, how exactly does that work?
Jim Girard:  Yes, it’s exactly what it is. And, that’s where the basis of all this is. I believe in the electric universe. So, if you think about it, we have 100 lightning strikes every second. Each lightning strike produces a unique set of harmonics and frequencies that span all the way up to the gigahertz range, AM, FM, short wave, long wave, UHF, VHF, millimeter, all the way up to visible light when you look at it when it’s exciting the air and stuff, and you get the photons of light from it.
So, light is a very important part of it. And, if you think about it, every other planet is doing the same thing. So, those are our sources of these wide range of natural EMFs that we’re really not getting when we’re inside, shielded in the building that’s got three bar in the walls, or you’ve got a metal roof on it. You’re blocking a lot of that natural energy. As well as we get it from the sun. And, the sun’s the largest source of EMF in our solar system. And, that’s still just a small part of what we get outside of our solar system. So, if you think about it, everything that’s spinning in the universe is generating these plasma discharges that generate unique sets of harmonics and frequencies. And, when you look at it onto the spectrum analyzer, it looks like it’s a continuous thing. But, it’s actually, like you say, it’s a series of lightning discharges that are current everywhere.
And, that’s what we try to do with the BioChargers. We’re not using cloud structures and things like that to generate unique sets of harmonics and frequencies, but we’ve figured out using electronics that we can vary harmonics and frequencies at each and every one of our lightning discharges that we’re generating.
Ben:  Alright. I hope you guys are enjoying the show. I want to interrupt to tell you about shrooms. And, as you know, shrooms have been a hot topic psychedelic research and post-traumatic stress disorder research. It turns out you don’t have to use something like psilocybin, which, of course, also flirts with the boundaries of legality, to get the benefits of mushrooms. A lot of people don’t know, not only can you get a lot of the same brain benefits from regular legal mushrooms, but, you can also do things like increase your immune system strength. You can do things like control your blood sugar. You can increase the production of something like brain-derived neurotropic factor, or vascular endothelial growth factor.
Mushrooms have a host of benefits, but, it can be confusing. It’s like, do you take maitake, enokitake, agaricus, mashima, tremella, lion’s mane, cordyceps, reishi. So, sometimes, I don’t like to guess. And, I’ll just put all of them in my morning cup of coffee. So, I’ll make my Kion Coffee and I’ll just put a couple of giant scoops of all the mushrooms. And no, I’m not opening 10 different packets of mushrooms. I use this blend from Four Sigmatic that has about a dozen different mushroom extracts in it, along with rose hips chock full of vitamin C for your immune system.
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Ben:  Okay. And, are you using, because I know that there are different tubes, if you look at this BioCharger, and folks can go to the shownotes for this episode. If you go to BenGreenfieldFitness.com/BioCharge, as in just BioCharge, just what it sounds like. If you go to BenGreenfieldFitness.com/BioCharge, I’m going to have a picture of what this thing looks like. But, there are multiple tubes inside it that, from what I understand, are full of gases. Are you charging these gases to create that lightning bolt kind of effect? Or, are those there for a different reason?
Jim Girard:  Yeah. So, lights, actually, are the fourth part of it. So, what we’re using is the energy from the coil to excite the gases in the tubes to release photons of light. So, if you ever went outside and wondered what causes that blue in the sky. So, the blue in the sky is a result of all these different gases in the atmosphere that get excited by solar radiation that excites the gases and releases photons of light. So, what we’ve done is we put individual gases in each tube and you’ll see what spectrums of frequencies that they’re producing. And, like I mentioned earlier, in physics class, when we’re studying it, that’s what they do. They put different elements in each one of the tubes. And, you’d see specific spectrum lights associated with each type of gas produced.
And, for instance, the neon produces that far-infrared infrared. And, that’s why it’s orange. And, that’s why you see devices like Joovv that utilize that. It’s because of the type of gas that they’re exciting to fluoresce and actually release those spectrums of frequencies.
So, what we’re trying to do, instead of what Joovv is, where you’re just focusing in on one narrow spectrum of the visible light spectrum, is we wanted to add different spectrums of frequencies. So, by adding gases to it, we’ve actually added, I believe, about 152 different wavelengths in the visible light spectrum with all the different gas tubes that we’re doing, instead of just in a narrow band where you’re only producing a handful.
Ben:  So, these tubes are full of things like argon, krypton, neon, helium, mercury, etc.? Those are actually vibrating and producing photons of light. And, we know that that’s just basic chemistry. We know that biophotons can be produced. And, that’s the visible light that we might see. But, when it comes to the actual nanometer wavelength, when you look at something like a Joovv light or a lot of these red light therapy devices folks are using, typically, it’s 600 to 900 nanometers of wavelength or so. What exactly are we getting from something like a BioCharger?
Jim Girard:  Well, we go much higher into the visible light spectrum there that just the far-infrared, infrared that’s slightly lower than that. But, like those spectrums of frequencies, it goes, I can’t say offhand the nanometers. But, the frequency spectrum would be between 10 to the 12th hertz and 10 to the 16th hertz or the spectrum of frequencies indivisible light spectrum. And, the type of tubes that we’re generating are within that spectrum.
Ben:  Okay. Got it. Now, does this mean that, when I’m using it, I need to actually be looking at the device to get the beneficial effects of that light? What exactly is the best way to be absorbing that light? And, what’s the proposed biological effect that light is having?
Jim Girard:  Well, I think light is a big part. I look at it as almost our bodies are photosynthesis-designed, also, not just plants grow off of it, but our bodies do. And, if you think about it in the morning, how important light is. Light isn’t just about waking up our mind, but there are so many different functions that are awakened when that happens. And, if you think about how much more energy we have during the summer months where we have more light [00:39:50] ______. From that perspective of that full-spectrum and how it works, there’s many different mechanisms that have been defined, and, you have to spend a couple of hours. In scholarly Google, you’ll find hundreds of different articles that define all sorts of different benefits of these different types of light.
They use it in the form of seasonal affective disorder to bone healing to stress, to recovery, to the infrared stuff helps to flush, detoxify, that sort of thing. So, there are many different functions that are associated with light. So, Max Planck Institute was investigating the effects of these natural EMFs. So, what they ended up doing is shielding completely a group of people, not shielding completely a group of people for short periods of time, over a long period of time. So, they didn’t want to create long-term effects, but they were studying these short-term effects of natural EMF and the blocking of it. And, they found so many different things, whether the sleep, anxiety, hormones secretion, so many different aspects were affected by that.
And, what they also find within that study, that when you reintroduce the natural ones, like the circadian rhythm frequencies, many of these, not all those things were completely restored in a very short period of time. So, there is an aspect of our bodies are really designed to be in this white noise, wide spectrum of frequencies and harmonics. And, a big question always is, really, what is the difference between these natural EMFs and these man-made EMFs, because when you look at it, they’re both producing a type of frequency of things. But, what are those, really, the differences? And, why is it that one may be helpful, one may not be helpful?
I think that that’s partly what science is starting to really investigate. And, I really think that the big difference is and why the BioCharger is different than man-made is the fact that, in nature, as you alluded to, that we’re constantly having plasma discharges everywhere in the universe. And, each one is its own unique event. It’s creating its own unique sets of harmonics and frequencies. For a short period of time, their pulse is off and on. And, when you see it, as you mentioned earlier with the BioCharger, you have these plasma discharges that occurred. But, they’re a bunch of single events that are happening. And, it’s that pulsing off and on that makes it unique or different.
Whereas, with the Wi-Fi and things like that, you’re dealing with a continuous wave, where you have to have that continuous wave of information going. You can’t chop it off and on, or you lose the signal and the power, like our 60-hertz power line. You can’t turn that off and on all the time. And, the advantage of why you want to have it off is to allow the cell to go back to its own natural resting potential and allow it to be its own resting potential.
Ben:  Which would occur if that signal were pulsing, for example.
Jim Girard:  Exactly. Whereas, with the continuous wave or what you would see with Wi-Fi and things like that, it doesn’t allow the body, or the cell, to actually go back to its natural resting position. And, that’s why it’s so powerful. And, that’s why the BioCharger is powerful. And, that’s why you see some of these PEMF, these systems that are out there that are working, is it’s because of that.
Ben:  So, basically, in a nutshell, we’ve got the PEMF. We have the actual voltage, which is what you’d get very similar to, if you were outside barefoot, or you were exposed to, say, a lightning storm or something like that. And then, you have these frequencies or harmonics, which are sounds. You could hear them when you’re using the BioCharger. And, that’s more, also, related to the effect of the discharges that are brought in by the Tesla coil that’s built into this thing. And then, finally, you have the so-called photobiomodulation, the production of light, specifically, by charging the gas particles that are in these tubes that are inside the BioCharger. Those are the four different energies that are being used in this thing, correct?
Jim Girard:  Exactly.
Ben:  Okay. I got it. So, I have a few follow-up questions, obviously.
First of all, as I briefly mentioned, but I wasn’t quite clear on this, with light therapy, in many cases, folks say you need to be looking at it, or sometimes, you need to even have your clothing removed so that you actually get something like infrared or red light exposed to the skin without the clothing blocking that effect. Any best practices as far as getting the most out of the photobiomodulation, the actual biophotons of light being produced by this thing?
Jim Law:  With the light part, from our experience, we’ve always kept the clothes on just because it gets a little bit a different experience, I think, if you’re standing, sitting around naked, especially, if you have a group of people doing it. But, from our experience, with the way we’ve had it set up, it’s worked very well for us. I think that there are parts that, even with your eyes closed, or there’s a part of the light is going into you, anyway. If you ever shut your eyes, you can see some of the different shades that are going on there. And, I know that as light is pulsed, it responds different than continuous light. And, that’s why if you see many of these devices that they’re using, they’re not using continuous light. But, many of them vary the way in which they pulse it. And, that’s partly because of the way the wave hits the body when you’re turning it off and on like that. There’s different things that have different effects as a result of that. And, it’s been pretty well-documented.
Ben:  Well, that’s my understanding as well. That’s based on a lot of the research of the Russian biophysicist, Alexander Gurwitsch, I think his name was, who show that there’s a certain amount of cellular mitochondrial stimulation in response to some of these light frequencies. And, they’re not dependent upon retinal exposure. We’re talking about either photoreceptors on the skin that are exposed to light or even the UV radiation that you get mild exposure to from these light frequencies.
So, I’ve never been convinced that you got to have your eyes open. I think, probably, if you had your skin exposed, you get a bigger effect, compared to not having some of those photoreceptors on the skin exposed. But, I personally don’t necessarily stare at the BioCharger the whole time I use it. Often, I’m reading a book or stretching or doing something that doesn’t involve me looking directly at the charger.
Jim Law:  Yeah, and that’s my experience, too. Sometimes, I’ll leave my eyes open. Sometimes, I shut. Sometimes, I sit and meditate. Sometimes, I focus in on my breathing. Sometimes, I focus in on an intention, because, as we all know, that intention helps. It’s been proven that the placebo effects work. So, if you have a positive intention while you’re doing the things like that, all those little subtle things will help in the experience that you have with the BioCharger.
Ben:  Okay. Got it. My next question is regarding the actual, and I told my kids I was going to interview the folks who designed this BioCharger, and they wanted me to ask you this, because they like to touch it when it’s turned on being used. And, you get this arcing of electricity from the device to your fingertips, almost like a lightning bolt into your fingers when you touch it. Is it safe to touch? Is it therapeutical to touch? What’s the deal? What’s happening when you actually put a finger on the device while it’s on?
Jim Girard:  Well, what’s happening is, technically speaking, you have a higher potential at the top of the coil and your body’s at a lower potential because you’re standing on the ground. So, it will naturally want to arc to the lower potential. So, as you bring your hand closer to the arc rod or other points up near the toroid, you will see, sometimes, sparks that will jump out. They may startle you. Depending on the frequency it’s running at, you might notice a little mark or something like that on your hands more at the higher end. But, definitely, not necessarily to do it. The idea of why we use the high voltage is to allow to sit comfortably a little further away through the air to conduct the voltage. And, by time it gets to our bodies, it’s not nearly as high voltage. So, you don’t really have to worry about actually sparking over anything else like that.
Conversely, also, if I was sitting near the BioCharger and somebody else came up close to me and they touched me, they may also feel slight shocking between them.
Ben:  Interesting.
Jim Girard:  And, that’s also as a result of those differences of potential between the two sources.
Ben:  Okay. Got it. Got it. So, just very similar if you were to rub your feet on carpet, and then, go touch someone. You’re just getting electrical discharge. Now, it makes sounds. It makes a lot of sound. It’ll go from low pitch to high pitch, back down. I’ve noticed that different recipes, I know, you call them in terms of whether you’re choosing a recipe for headaches or a recipe for lime, or a recipe for digestion, or anything else. The sound frequencies seem to change quite a bit. What’s actually producing the sound frequencies as these sounds change from low pitch to high pitch and back down as you use it?
Jim Girard:  So, there’s a specific function behind why we have those different tones or pitches. So, as I was mentioning earlier, in music, when you have two different notes, you generate harmonies or harmonics. And, if I vary one of the notes, I generate different sets of harmonies or harmonics. And, that’s the principle behind what Royal Rife was doing. So, as you change these pulsed frequencies, you hear those different tones changing. But, from a scientific perspective, we’re generating unique sets of harmonics and frequencies. So, as you hear those different tones changing, just know that we’re also generating, literally, hundreds of thousands of different harmonics. And, they’re constantly changing every second.
So, depending on how we create our programs or recipes determined on how we space those out or do we just slightly change them by a thousandths of a hertz or do we increase it by hundreds of hertz each
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